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PostSubject: capitalism   Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:18 pm

Capitalism is an economic system in which property is owned by private persons and operated for profit.[1] In a capitalist economy, investments, distribution, income, production and pricing of goods and services are determined through the operation of a market economy. Capitalism is usually considered to involve the right of individuals and corporations to trade, using money, in goods, services (including finance), labor and land.

this is capitalism and nothing eles
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:26 pm

Exactly.
Capitalism's major problems arise because everything is operated for profit, and because the market is a poor way for people to communicate their needs.
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:28 pm

why do my repleyes keep getting deleted??????????

my Qestion is: what do you mean?

are you happy now post deleting admin maianc?????????
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:53 pm

In capitalism peoples needs come last, the major profit of one out scales a mediocre profit of many. A CEO will make billions to live off while his workers(who are undoubtedly working harder) make shit to support families on. Instead of giving his workers a sustainable living wage the CEO will put profit first giving him even more money.

How is that right? The goes against everything it is to be human.
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:14 pm

Ruadhan wrote:
The goes against everything it is to be human.

You said it all.

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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:51 pm

communism goes against everything it is to be human.
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:01 pm

Nope.

Competitive nature is a result of social conditioning. The fact that pretty much all native peoples live/lived communally proves competition among peers is not the social norm (outside of base behavior.. sports, initiation rites, ect).
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:33 pm

calinis wrote:
communism goes against everything it is to be human.

Dont just say stuff, if you are going to make a statement back it up or else it will not be taken as an argument.
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:57 pm

communism goes against human nature. people arent that selfless and dont want to work as a community. i certainly dont, because i'm not equal to everyone else. i dont want to share my stuff. capitalism has worked fine. lets keep it at that.
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:01 am

Capitalism works fine if you got cash, but everyone else it sucks.

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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:05 am

even those with cash are doomed to lose it to those with more cash....
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:07 am

Capitalist thought and method promotes conflict between peoples. War is bad, thus capitalism is bad.
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:08 am

the poor people under capitalism have a better quality of life than the average person living under socialism
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:13 am

US = Yes
Other capitalist countrys in Asia and Eastern countries = Not even close.

Guess why? because US workers fought for these rights, corporations and government heads fought against wage increases and price lowering

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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:14 am

Haiti vs Cuba.
Cuba wins.

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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:16 am

even if worker's right werent so prevalent, capitalism ensures everyone an equal oppertunity to succeed so poor people CAN better themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:21 am

No, they can't.

YOu need money to make money in capitalism

You wont have enough to go to college if your poor, and will have to go straight to work with little education.

And its not like you can make a new walmart and succed, the enemy corporation would destroy you before you had the chance, why do you think so many private buisnesses are dieing?

As a side story: My brother has his masters degree in buisness, and has been trying to make a private buisness, but he doesn;t have the money to do so, and loans would just screw him over since we wouldn;t beable to pay back in such a short time. So, hes going political instead now.

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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:23 am

no, it doesn't come even close, capitalism is pushing for the privatization of the already poor educational system - this will simply ensure the poor are never properly educated, while the rich are....which makes sure that the rich succeed so long as they aren't being stupid, and the poor will fail, unless they are geniuses....
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:25 am

you can get to college if you're poor thou student loans thats how im going to college because i sure as hell cant afford it
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:43 am

Student loans don't pay for everything, and you have to pay them back eventually.

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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:44 am

you will never pay them back....or at least it will take twenty years 0.o;; THAT'S HOW BAD IT GETS
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:45 am

yeah but once you finish college you can get a decent job and afford to pay them back
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:46 am

no, not always, there is a hell of a lot of unemployment o.o;;
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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:46 am

Decent job = exactly.

No matter which way you look at it, workers are needed to ..well.. work!

So everyone does not have a chance to make it big, because most everyone have to work low as like cleaners, janitors, theme park guardsmen etc.

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PostSubject: Re: capitalism   Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:47 am

Oh yeah, can't forget the massive lazyness of some North Americans Razz

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