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PostSubject: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:42 pm

who thinks that enforcing the death penalty on drug users will improve society?
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:51 pm

rephrase you statement better, i am willing to bet you and maybe one other are going to agree. say something like. What are your stance on drug users being punished to the maximum with the death penalty. If so will this improve society?
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:09 pm

itts the same thing as what i said do you agree with it tho?
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:13 pm

No, its completely obvious that rehabilitation is the best route to go. education can do wonders. but making people stop doing something out of fear is tyranical
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:15 pm

well, i don't agree with it, i don't think the death penalty really solves the problem - you have to attack the roots, which are in - you guessed it...- lack of education and too much poverty!

through the redistribution of wealth and thorough education as well as a lesson on drugs (NOT just scare tactics) you can drive more people away from drugs. those that wish, though, may partake, so long as they understand that if they cease working to take drugs, they will be sent to a rehabilitation center.

something along those lines anyway =P
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:17 pm

not really drugs kill people and people who take them obviously dont understand the significane of a human life most are really stupid i absolutely hate them there is no way in hell i want to pay for those scum in jail or worse rebahbilitation
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:20 pm

you wouldn't be paying in a communist world lol there would be quite enough food to keep them comfortable until they recovered

and yeah, the whole point is teaching them their life is significant in school, what drugs will really do to you, etc.

a lot of people don't know what to do and are severely depressed before taking drugs, thinking it will help, and then they don't know when they should stop at that point

the rest are rich assholes who have so much money they don't know what to do with it

also, there are safe ways to take drugs - those tactics would be taught at schools too
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:21 pm

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not really drugs kill people and people who take them obviously dont understand the significane of a human life most are really stupid

WOW YOU JUST PROVED OUR POINT. education will set us free
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:31 pm

there are no safe ways to take drugs and schools shouldnt encourage drug use its like giving stupid 11 and 12 year girls condems wth man
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:46 pm

no, providing condoms should they ever want any helps prevent pregnancies, along with education on it

its not encouraging drug use, its giving a safe alternative, in case you feel the urge...

like telling kids that marijuana is actually not addictive, its when it is mixed with other things that it gets dangerous, as opposed to telling kids they'll die if they smoke pot
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:51 pm

no thats really dumb. why the hell would you give kids condoms? they are KIDS, they sould be playing with toys and stuff and not going out and having sex. they probably think "hey the school gives us condoms, so it must be okay" and encourages that mentality and corrupts the moral structure.
yes it encourageas drug use and saying marijuana is not addictive is bad because it makes them think that is is okay to use
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:00 am

no, you teach them it is NOT okay to use, and help list drugs that range from extremely dangerous to moderately safe (as long as you are smart about it)

and yeah, using marijuana in moderate doses is fine

also, the school isn't GIVING them condoms, its PROVIDING them, as in, you have to go to like...the nurse's office and ask for some condoms...although at 16, during secondary sex ed (yeah, i had to go through that) giving them condoms would probably be smart

you teach them that sex can be beneficial and it can be dangerous, and that the best way to prevent problems is abstinence, BUT if you feel that you are mature enough to handle having a baby just in case, you should also wear a condom

something along those lines would work, i think

along your train of thought we should execute the kids having sex because they are corrupt, right? they'll turn to drugs anyway, right?
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:01 am

I'm all for the use of recreational drugs so why would I want to murder those who use them? In fact in a socialist society I would like to see an increase in the availability of such drugs, preferably alongside better institutions for dealing with negative side effects (addiction etc.) and we would hopefully be capable of designing them to eliminate such side effects.

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no thats really dumb. why the hell would you give kids condoms? they are KIDS, they sould be playing with toys and stuff and not going out and having sex. they probably think "hey the school gives us condoms, so it must be okay" and encourages that mentality and corrupts the moral structure.

More likely they'll think "what the hell are the school giving us these for, we've got better things to do". If they really are kids then they will not be interested in having sex and the fact that they have been given contraception would make no difference whatsoever.

Surely this is better than, when they do have sex (as is more or less inevitable), being at risk of both STI's and unwanted pregnancy.
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:46 pm

if you would make drugs legalized then i would not feel safe. under socialism wouldnt you care aboutt all peoples needs? well my needs are being neglacted personally like the rite to security the best way to deal with drug users (who are scum) is to kill them then we dont have to have burden on the good citizens (namely me for ex)
really i fail to see why giving condoms and saying drugs are good is effective. if a child does have sex, they deserve the STDs that mite accompany them and if they become pragnent it is entrirely their fault and they are to take care of the child or put it up for adoption. i think people should take responsibility for their actions yes? they should except communal support for their follies.
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:09 pm

your needs stop at the end of your fingers, MEANING your needs are only important so long as it doesn't infringe on the needs of others (ONE OF THOSE NEEDS IS STAYING ALIVE)

no, explaining drugs and sex thoroughly is effective when accompanied with safer alternatives

if they become pregnant, yeah, its their fault, but they should still have to option for abortion, provided that they also are informed they can have a relatively painless birth and their child may be taken care of by other parents or by a community supported orphanage (either way having a relatively normal life (i say relatively normal because no life is normal lol))

and yeah, if they fuck their lives up, then they go to rehabilitation centers o.o;;
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:25 pm

my nneeds be infridged upon when dumbass drug users operate their car impaired and cause harm to me making me live in a wheel chair for the rest of my life (not fair)

nope explaining sex and drugs by dismissing hit is most effective

nope abortion is not an option
if stupid people mess up their lives NO BODY SHOULD HELP THEM ITS THEIR FAULT
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:28 pm

alright, so if you fuck up, we'll make sure to leave your mangled body struggling to live in the dust

AND YES EVERYONE FUCKS UP FROM TIME TO TIME

dismissing it doesn't do anything, that means kids can go out and try this shit because they don't know any better - and if they don't know how or why to use a condom, they'll get pregnant

um, just saying, there are a lot of accidents simply because of cars, they are obsolete, and should be replaced by public transportation

and people would be educated about the best times to use drugs, what not to do when high, stuff like that, i suppose
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:33 pm

if the community discourages it, people would be less likely to do it. if they tell them the consequences, people would be less likely to do it.

fine if they want to be idiots they should face the consequences

and wth "what not to do when high"? when you're high you cant think coherently you mess up and violence can happen

so screw them they dont deserve to live
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:43 pm

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if the community discourages it, people would be less likely to do it. if they tell them the consequences, people would be less likely to do it.

fine if they want to be idiots they should face the consequences

and wth "what not to do when high"? when you're high you cant think coherently you mess up and violence can happen

so screw them they dont deserve to live
Have you ever been high? If anything that is the least likely time of which you will do anything except eat some food and laugh a little....and maybe get some.
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:47 pm

false. people think they are okay when they are high but thats because they are high that they have decreased mental function thats why accidents are caused by scum driving under the infleunce
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:48 pm

the majority of the people who get high stay away from cars because driving is kind of a buzz kill. they would much rather chill with friends than drive around
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:53 pm

accidents happen most caused by dumbasses (aka people who take drugs) i doubt they stay home mostly they want to go party because thats what teenagers do, being stupid and all. getting rid of drugs does society a favour. no benefit in having them (recreational use anyways)
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:56 pm

there's no way in getting rid of them lol so get used to it

and most accidents happen because of dumbasses who drink and drive ^_^;;
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:57 pm

you have absolutly no idea what you are talking about
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PostSubject: Re: regarding drug users and the death penalty   Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:59 pm

if we enforce the death penalty fewer people will use them and if not at least we get rid of scum
yea alcohol being a drug thats included but others 2
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