calinis Mcarthy's spawn
Posts : 191 Join date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: trotsky out? Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:08 pm | |
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Shabazz Freeman Soviet Administrator
Posts : 373 Join date : 2008-07-02 Location : Bay Area
| Subject: Re: trotsky out? Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:09 pm | |
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solpacvoicis Soviet Administrator
Posts : 365 Join date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: trotsky out? Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:03 pm | |
| i said no, trotsky was a great man. | |
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Riddler Leftist
Posts : 18 Join date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: trotsky out? Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:27 pm | |
| YES!!! It would be very fair, since you removed Stalin and Mao. | |
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bolshevik Soviet Administrator
Posts : 164 Join date : 2008-07-06 Age : 33 Location : ameriKKKa
| Subject: Re: trotsky out? Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:41 pm | |
| why would you remove a hero? | |
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Mighty Mighty Bosstone! Radical
Posts : 28 Join date : 2008-07-21
| Subject: Re: trotsky out? Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:50 am | |
| As I said in the thread voting Stalin and Mao off: - Quote :
- What petty Sectarianism to dismiss two political leaders simply because they oppose your own ideology. If this is a board that allows those of all ideological persuasions (which I think it is, due to the presence of multiple usergroups of political ideas ranging from Anarchism to Stalinism to Right-Wing Politics), and those such as Lenin and Trotsky are still on the banner, why dismiss Stalin and Mao?
This should never have become a political discussion, just a matter of equality.
And sure, maybe Stalin's face can alienate a Capitalist or two, but so can the faces of Marx, Trotsky, lenin, Luxemburg, etc. Remember, you oppose Stalin and Mao but like Trotsky and Lenin and Marx so they stay up there, but mind you many people don't like Stalin, Mao, Trotsky, Lenin, and Marx!
Further, where are the Anarchist leaders? Makhno? Bakunin? Were there not enough Anarchists on the board to vote one into the banner, since I see the banner is a product of sectarian favoritism?
Personally, I think it should just be a symbol or icon (perhaps we can encourage the more artistic members here to give it a shot?) with the name of the forum, as to cover every leader of every ideology allowed here would be a very crowded image.
I think that Stalin and Mao should be on the banner if their followers are allowed on the board. I also think that Trotsky should stay up because Trotskyists are allowed. Luxemburg because Left-Communists are welcome. I'm not going to vote anyone off because my ideas are ideological contrary to theirs. Look especially to the end. Sure, I'm certainly no Trotskyist, but he deserves a spot on the banner since Trotskyists are present on the board and he is a prominent figure in the history of Communism -- a positive one or not. - Quote :
- i said no, trotsky was a great man.
This is what I mean! It doesn't matter what your opinion of him is! | |
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Riddler Leftist
Posts : 18 Join date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: trotsky out? Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:50 pm | |
| - bolshevik wrote:
- why would you remove a hero?
He's not a hero to me. | |
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axcept green or die! Radical
Posts : 66 Join date : 2008-07-04 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: trotsky out? Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:38 pm | |
| If you're not going to have Anton Pannekoek or Paul Mattick up there, then I'll have to vote no. | |
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Shabazz Freeman Soviet Administrator
Posts : 373 Join date : 2008-07-02 Location : Bay Area
| Subject: Re: trotsky out? Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:41 pm | |
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