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 Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?

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What do you think?
A positive step towards socialism but unlikely
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A positive step and possible reality
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A bad idea and impossible
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A bad idea but could possibly happen
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PostSubject: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:15 pm

What if, when Bill gates dies, all his wealth is distributed to the tax paying populous instead of idling in his kid's bank accounts?
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:02 pm

yes, this would help out towards a socialist end, because it takes one of the ways that the bourgeoisie retains power....at least, as far as i can tell lol

actually, gates is donating his wealth, his kids get next to nothing ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:23 pm

Hm... I voted a bad idea, but now that I think about it.... Of course, it still should be up to the owner of the funds as to what happens to it. Meh.
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:53 pm

the dead should have no say as to what goes on in the world of the living...=D

(jefferson was worried that this would continue to happen lol)
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:20 pm

Definitely. Unlikely, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:47 pm

solpacvoicis wrote:
yes, this would help out towards a socialist end, because it takes one of the ways that the bourgeoisie retains power....at least, as far as i can tell lol

actually, gates is donating his wealth, his kids get next to nothing ^_^

actually i remember hearing that haha. just an example though. i just think its wrong that 5 out of every 100 dollars in america belong to 1 of 13 families
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:21 pm

i believe it is possible after the great revolution :]

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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:55 pm

That's true, I was just assuming that this meant in the short term, since the first two options called it a 'step towards socialism'.
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:38 pm

i dont agree with it, this will only make is seem like its ok to live in capitalism with just a few regulations. reforms only work so much
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:09 am

i actully agree with you to a certain extent. amerikkka has long since passed hope for reform... revolution is likely the only option. but even so i would support the abolishon inherited wealth because it would cripple the minority upper class
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:28 am

Ruadhan wrote:
i dont agree with it, this will only make is seem like its ok to live in capitalism with just a few regulations. reforms only work so much

well, actually, it just makes the upper class less stable...but i see where you are coming from with this, like how people want capitalism with like free healthcare, not realizing that the only way such a system sustains itself is through the subjugation of other nations....but by further subjugation of these nations, they are driven toward revolution...eh....this is why i think communism is inevitable, lol, because no matter the path attempted by capitalists to make their proles happy under capitalism, it fucks with the proles of other cappies...its a doomed system Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:09 am

Capitalism with free healthcare only works throuht he subjugation of other nations? France, Britan, and my lovely home country, the great white north, Canada.

Those are the only ones I can think of.
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:32 am

hmm, canada is a trickier subject, of which i know next to nothing - but examine the EU, isn't it simply another plan to furth bind together the richer western nations in harmony so as to better turn against the rest of the world? similar to NAFTA? it is only because europe in general has accumulated so much capital that it is even feasible for them to spend money for free healthcare in even two of their nations....canada would be a similar story, methinks
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:05 pm

this is bad it would only make the poor poorer and the rich poorer
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:44 pm

the poor are always getting poorer, so the rich getting poorer isn't a bad thing -_-
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:55 pm

solpacvoicis wrote:
the poor are always getting poorer, so the rich getting poorer isn't a bad thing -_-

.... I'm not even bothered to place an argument against this shit it's simply an idelogical diffrence and not exacly something that can be debated espescally with communists.
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:38 pm

okay, then i'll try going for a logical argument...i think personally that eliminating inherited wealth will force money that would've been retained in rich families into the market, which i think helps out the poor, who aren't losing much by losing inheritance, as usually, they inherit debts, not wealth...is that debatable?
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:33 pm

solpacvoicis wrote:
okay, then i'll try going for a logical argument...i think personally that eliminating inherited wealth will force money that would've been retained in rich families into the market, which i think helps out the poor, who aren't losing much by losing inheritance, as usually, they inherit debts, not wealth...is that debatable?

maybe but pepole are usally dumb and tend to spend the inheritance in consumer goods like cars and other expensive stuff
so it's dosn't really matter but the state did sqat in helping that person aqiering his wealth( or debts) so there is no reson why it should go to the state but it would probably be better to make it an option to donate your money to something state owned...
w8 that'S already posseble.
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:41 am

-_- you can't count on people to do that, so, if possible, it would be better if the wealthy were forced to donate posthumously to various projects intended to help those stuck at the bottom of society...
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:41 am

So after they die, you go up to them and force them to donate to projects?
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:50 am

no, more like, they can't pass on their wealth unless it is to some sort of public works project...or international program....preferably long standing

still so much room for corruption...
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:32 pm

solpacvoicis wrote:
-_- you can't count on people to do that, so, if possible, it would be better if the wealthy were forced to donate posthumously to various projects intended to help those stuck at the bottom of society...

why? it's theyr money not the states.
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PostSubject: Re: Eliminating Inherited Wealth In amerikkka?   Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:49 pm

no, its NOT their money, they made that money through the exploitation of wage slavery....its rightfully everyone's and should go to the people...

its not their money, or the state's money, its everyone's money...

trustworthy charities and fun stuff like that....
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